My blog no longer on Planet.Fedoraproject.org

From a chat with a friend earlier today.
(09:36:42 AM) yours_truly: i am not amused that they changed the way they aggregate blogs on planet now: 1. they never announced that the change will come; 2. they kicked existing blogs (like mine) out; 3. now i have to go log in to fedorapeople... and i have never done this. i am not even sure i still have that SSH key i created for the CLA back in the day, and even if i do, i forgot the passphrase.
(09:36:57 AM) yours_truly: so i am expressly not happy with that
(09:37:47 AM) friend: They announced it on fedora-devel. distribution was too narrow I guess
(09:38:26 AM) yours_truly: how come we always do that? -- do a million things right and then blow one really important one
(09:42:05 AM) yours_truly: i don't want to raise a stink, but i am reckoning there must be more people than just me being unhappy about it
(09:42:38 AM) friend: well, get your blog back on planet, then post about it
(09:42:41 AM) yours_truly: first we say we want to lower the barrier for participation, and then we go demanding that people SSH to a server using an encryption key for jake's sake
(09:42:59 AM) yours_truly: i would fix it, but i don't think i have the key anymore
(09:43:12 AM) yours_truly: and i certainly do not have the passphrase for the key, even if I still had it
(09:43:26 AM) yours_truly: i am toast


  1. You *do* know that you can update your SSH key via the accounts system, right? o_O

  2. My biggest issue with this is not how hard or easy it is for me (even though, I am not very techical, and SSH keys are not my main strength), but rather how high we want the entry barriers for community supporters to be.

    Many of Fedora Ambassadors and other non-technical people around the project will find themselves in the same boat with me. I know Fedora means no wrong when they make such decisions, but I am not so sure how others will feel about having to jump through additional hoops just to restore the previous state.

    We keep stepping onto the same rake over and over again: Making changes to systems and/or processes without sufficient notice and justification to the people affected. I am sure our intentions are always good, but the results can frequently be surprizingly negative.

  3. I don't think fedora-devel list is the best place to make announcements like this. that being said, it was also announced on multiple blogs on planet fedora. if you're being syndicated on planet fedora but you don't actually followPplanet Fedora, you probably shouldn't be on Planet Fedora.

  4. I do follow the blogs on Planet, but even if I did not, my point is quite different. It's not as much about announcing and publicizing the change, but rather about raising the participation barrier to blogging on Planet.

    Do we as Fedora want more people's blogs aggregated there or fewer?

    If "fewer" is the answer, I still think that the ability to create and successfully use SSH keys would be a secondary factor at best in selecting which blogs get aggregated and which do not.

    This is my whole point.

  5. You do not need an SSH key for access to fedorapeople.org. It falls back to password access, using your Fedora account system (FAS) password.

    We need a way to easily alert (via email) everyone who is in cla_done and also cla_done + one other group.

    IMO, all contributors should be subscribed to fedora-devel-announce. It is the technical announcement list, and as is obvious in this case, technical announcements are important to all contributors. It is a low traffic list.


  6. I made a screencast with the steps needed for someone to add his blog to Planet Fedora:


    Is it still hard?

  7. Quaid +1 -- I am going to subscribe to fedora-devel-announce right away!

    I am also impressed with how supportive and constructive the community response was to my post. I see now how far we have come as a project.

    Also, I wanted to make a note here that my intention never was to point a finger and spread the blame. The new way to add feeds is a first step in getting Planet to a much more scalable state, unlike previously, where it took manual work of a single person to add and manage all the numerous feeds.

    Seriously, Seth deserves major credit for his work running Planet. Kudos!